A great conversation with David M. Jacobs about UFOs, aliens and his book, Walking Among Us.
What is this book about?
Walking Among Us describes the methods by which hybrid aliens are infiltrating into human society. It outlines exactly how they live in apartments, get food, furniture, and become normal citizens in America.
How and when did you become interested in the study of UFOs and aliens?
I was trained as a historian but as a sideline in 1965, while an undergraduate at UCLA, I became interested in studying UFO reports. By 1968, in graduate school at the University of Wisconsin- Madison, I was a UFO field investigator reading and learning everything I could about the subject. I obtained my PhD in 1973 and in 1974 taught at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, before moving to Temple University in Philadelphia in 1975. Starting in 1977, I began teaching “UFOs and American Society” in the American Studies program. It was the only full credit, upper level, course on the subject in the country. After meeting pioneer abduction researcher Budd Hopkins in 1982, I studied the subject under his tutelage and began doing hypnosis with abductees in 1986. I have previously published four books about UFOs and abductions: The UFO Controversy in America (1975), Secret Life (1992), The Threat (1997), and UFOs and Abductions: Challenging the Borders of Knowledge (edited, 2000).
What do aliens look like?
Some look like the standard gray aliens that one sees in advertisements and on the sides of buses. Actually, there are several types all working together. Insectlike ones appear to be in charge, tall and small gray ones do much of the “medical” work, then there are “hybrids” that are combinations of humans and aliens. These hybrids run the gamut from quite alien looking to being quite human looking.
What happens during abductions?
I have written three books outlining this question. It is important to know that all communication with aliens is telepathic and abductees are under complete mental and physical control during abductions. In most abductions there are a series of “Table Procedures” during which physical, mental, and reproductive activities are administered to people. These include taking sperm, ova, along with neurological events such as staring into a person’s open eyes from a distance of a few inches or even touching foreheads. Most procedures are unrecognizable as a human physician’s examination. Then they are required to have interactions with odd looking beings who resemble a cross between aliens and humans. They see these beings as babies, toddlers, children, adolescents, young adults, mature adults, and, for some reason, not older adults. They have specific interaction with these beings and they are incorporated into the abduction milieu with “jobs” to do and they faithfully carry out their responsibilities. When they return from abductions, they forget within seconds what has happened to them.
Are aliens studying and experimenting on humans?
This is a common misconception. There is no evidence that this is a study of humans or a learning situation. The abduction phenomenon is a program with a beginning, middle, and end. It is goal directed.
How are aliens going to achieve their goals?
There will be a gradual societal integration of human looking hybrids, whom I call “hubrids” who, with abductee’s help, will integrate into the society. Eventually their numbers will match those of humans and they will be able to accomplish their as yet unknown goals
Why is this book different than other books about UFO abductions?
After fifty years of studying UFOs and abductions this book is the culmination of my work. The thrust of the abduction phenomenon has been to use abductees in a program of alien integration into the society. Starting in 2003, I began to hear accounts of the implementation of that program as abductees told me about helping hybrids live here. The book describes, in part, the critical role that abductees play in this invasion. It gives testimony about how abductees are helping hybrids become citizens who live and work here.
David M. Jacobs is an American historian and recently retired associate professor of history at Temple University specializing in 20th-century American history and culture. Jacobs is also well known in the field of UFOlogy for his research and authoring of books on the subject of alien abductions.